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cliff, so note to the government. it does matter. >> yeah, but that's, as you say, part of it. laura, what else is going on? it just felt like we were going into a lackluster season here. what happened? >> i mean, there's been some discussion about weather trends as well, but whether or not we go over the fiscal cliff, consumers think next year we'll see higher taxes and lower entitlements. the only place in our space where we see a very significant fiscal cliff hit is aspirational customer, so the step-up customer into low-end tiffany's jewelry, for example, we just don't think they showed up this year. >> even if people, stacy, are going to be hit by higher taxes next year, at least some people are going to be hit by higher taxes next year, a lot of this is psychological, isn't it. you turn on the tv and you're feeling spooked, right? and once we have a deal or resolution, uncertainty taken away, will people unleash their spending? will this be unlocked? >> i think at the high end, yes, there will be some relief, and, you know, to laura's point, we were in tiffany over the weekend,
at the spending cuts, 25% of gdp comes from government spending, historically it's 20 it is. if there's a cut in government spending, where is the lift coming from, consumers, investment? therefore, the u.s. economy, we're on fragile ground right now. >> short term, sarge, this market held hostage minute by minute by the developments out of washington. >> yeah, sure, if we don't see any kind of compromise whatsoever, you'll see this s&p 500 trading in the 1360s next week. i think you'll get a short-term deal, address some of the issues, not really solve anything, kick the can down the road much like they do in europe and get your mild positive reaction going into the jobs data on friday. >> do you think we get a definitive move in this market one way or the other with some announcement out of washington, or is this market just so tired of all of the developments there? what do you think? >> well, there's still a risk-on trend, and if they kick the can down the road or actually come to some kind of compromise, that trend is intact, and you'll see going into the first few months of the year i b
, not by taxing and not going about it the way the government is talking about it. the far and away, the number one place it avoid are long-term interest rates sensitive bonds in the united states. if there was ever an investment more obvious to avoid, i don't know what it is. stay way from government bonds that mature more than five years out and your 401(k) plans, get out of all of your bond funds, equities will rise in 2013. even though the economy is in a terrible position, stocks will rise, bonds will fall in value. stay away from bonds. >> all right, we will watch that. bob, jump in and tell us about the action on the street. down 51 point at close. was that the low, bob? >> no, not quite. we were just a little bit lower than -- take a look the a dow and i will show you. by the way, bonds collapse was the big call of 2012, and spectacularly wrong for a lot of people. but that's still on for a lot of people. there you see, just off of the lows there. maybe about 60-something is the bottom on the dow jones investment average. trading shortened by the holiday. material stocks led the way and
has, they won't have anymore, and they won't have the government assistance programs to rely on. may not have the same effect we saw in the last recession. >> the ultimate consumer discretionary stocks, it occurs to me, dana, would be the luxury retailers like a tiffany which have suffered here recently. they in the past have been immune to a lot of vagaries of the consumer and the economy, but that hasn't been the case this time around. what happened? >> i think tiffany's a little bit different than some of the other luxury goods company. tiffany overall is working on its product, silver business which is a high margin category. didn't have enough novelty and newness in it and hopefully that's something they can fix for next year. >> wasn't just me then? >> not just you. >> exactly. >> i noticed that, yeah. >> dana on that point, the companies for stocks like tiffany's, what about aptitude in places like china in. >> overall when we see what's happening in china, so many new brands emerged in china, new companies on the luxury good fronts, and you've had the big conglomerates vogue
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